My favorite pair of jeans, Levi's 521 Rigid Envy were unfortunately discontinued quite some time ago. I remember when I bought my first pair back in 2011. They were probably the best fitting jeans I've ever bought. Unforunately, I wore them so much that they are broken in and no longer have that dark blue hue. Doesn't mean I still don't love those jeans, though! They faded in a custom way with my own body, I feel like I bought raw denim for 1/3 the price! But the denim is now lighter, and it would look out of place at a club or lounge.So, I decided to pick up another pair! But to my disappointment, Levi decided to discontinue the 521s. But in it's place, they created the 508s. When I saw Rigid Envy for 508s, I was esctatic. Surely, they can't be too far off, right? Well, after receiving my 508 Rigid Envy in the mail, I must say that I was quite disappointed. First, the sizing was WAY off. They were way to BAGGY in the thighs! I usually wear a 33x30 (33x29 if I can find one), and I looked goofy in these pants. It reminded me of MC Hammer, baggy in the thighs, but then it tapers off at the bottom. It reminded me of an ice cream cone. All I know now is that I'm returning them for a refund.But being so adamant about getting new Rigid Envys, I went to Macy's to see if they had 508s (I admit, I should've went to the store FIRST before purchasing on Amazon, dumb move on my part). Lo and behold, they had the 508s! I tried 3 different sizes - my usual 33x30, then 32x30, and finally 31x30. When I tried the 33x30 AGAIN (this time in-store), they were baggy once again. TOO BIG in the thighs! I tried 32x30, it looked less sloppy, but still - baggy in the thighs. Finally, I tried 31x30! The last time I wore a 31 waist was 10 years ago while I was still going through puberty! But for some reason, 31x30 fit like a glove! But still, not as well as the 521s. The 521s looked more proportional, but the 508s were close enough. By going TWO sizes down, I had the "slim" look that I was going for, although it may look a little skinny from the side profile. For the 521s, it looked slim from the side profile, but the 508s look slightly (just a tad!) more skinny due to the pants having to shrink down proportionally. But all in all, I haven't purchased any new Rigid Envys yet, because I want to wait until I get my refund from Amazon. But for those who loved the SLIM TAPER 521s, I would suggest going TWO sizes down for the 508s! If you wanted what the product advertised, Regular Taper, I suggest you go ONE size down! If you buy your regular waist size, well...prepare to return the product!! Because if you buy your regular waist size, you'll be purchasing "Baggy Taper" jeans, which I'd assume, no one would want!Levi's! Please bring back the SLIM TAPER 521s!I squat. I deadlift. I clean. I snatch.Leg day is pretty much every day for me. Long gone are the day's where I could comfortably fit into a pair of Levi's 511 (okay so I never really fit comfortably in them, they just fit). My normal jeans of choice are Naked & Famous skinny guy's; but even now, my 2 year old broken in denim totally limit's my range of motion. On to my next pair, my A.P.C. new petite standard denim that I'm just now breaking in with my thunder thighs. They're getting better and looser, but still not the most comfortable jeans to be wearing on a daily basis. That and they cost me $175, so I usually only wear them when I go out.That brings me to my Levi's 508's. Why buy such cheaper jeans when I have other pairs of higher quality denim at my disposal? Well, one of my favorite cuts was from a few years back when Levi's still made 520's. That was the best cut denim ever, IMO. Relaxed in the crotch, but tapers down so that the leg openings bunch up around your shoes and you're not dragging your denim all over the place. Sad to say, I basically caught them on the tail end of their shelf life. I was ecstatic to hear of the 508's! It's almost impossible to find taper jeans anymore, without them being RIDICULOUSLY baggy to a TINY taper. Not even Naked & Famous Weird Guy's are legit, they fit just like Skinny Guy's. To my joy, the 508's fit pretty much identical to my old 520's. Granted my legs are a lot bigger now than they were before. Which is perfect, plenty of room to move around comfortably. I can put on my socks and shoes without struggling again!Now the cons:-Tumbled Merlin looks a lot more blue than it does in real life, it's definitely grey.-Not the heaviest denim in the world.-Waist sizing is a TAD big. I would size down. I usually wear 31's (APC/Naked&Famous) just for comfort, but this 31 definitely feels big.Other people have touched on this before and I just want to reiterate so that we can have more buyer awareness. Not every color of jeans will fit the same way. I have ordered 3 pairs of these 508's all the same size (34x32) and all have had slightly different fits. The most recent order, I got the Rinsed Playa and these definitely have some spandex material in them as they are much stretchier than the Big Sur and Rigid Envy's that I had gotten last year. That being said, the Rinsed Playa is much closer in fit to the Big Sur, just stretchier, which I actually like for biking and being active. The Rinsed Playas are definitely thinner as well and I don't feel like I am constricted which I sometimes feel with my other two pairs. The Rigid Envy was the tightest fit of the three by far. I can fit in them but they seem to be more like a 33x31 rather than a true 34x32 (if I am going to judge off the other two pairs). So, beware guys and girls, not all will fit the same. I'll reiterate one more time for each jean:Big Sur: True to fit, strong 100% cotton jeans, should last me a long time, probably my favorite pair atmRigid Envy: Ran a bit small, strong 100% jeans, (same feel as Big Sur). The 34x32 actually felt like a 33x31Rinsed Playa: True to fit, spandex material mixed with cotton, stretchy and a great jean for active types or bicycle commuters.If I buy more jeans I will update this post to keep everyone informed. Hope this helps. peace!EDIT (3/7/2014): After wearing the Rinsed Playa on and off for about two weeks it seems that they are actually a bit larger than my Big Sur jeans. Maybe they have stretched out a bit due to the stretchyness? Anyway I am changing my original statement that Rinsed Playa is true to fit and they are actually an inch or so larger than man Big Sur's. The Rinsed Playa seems more like a 35x33 rather than the 34x32 that is advertised on it.Great pants, slightly stretchy. Taper in to ankle. Can go fairly well with a business casual outfit or just straight casual attire.Simple way too small, order size up..Way too skinny.Fit good in the waste but the length was slightly longer than expectedStretched more than expected